The New Shittynes of Hollywood

[DarkLobo]

Does Hollywood ever gets tired of making crap out of cool franchises like RE? who the heck is that superhuman girl who keeps appearing since the first movie? she even made Jill Valentine look like a average btch... now shes taking a romance with Carlos Oliviera... Hollywood crappy movies just keep coming and making millions of Dollars out of horrible movies based on video games.

http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony_pictures/residentevilextinction/teaser1/

[El Gostro]

And there be the sabbat...in the formie of Uwe Boll,the unholy...

[Javokis]

I haven't seen anything truly original come out of hollywood in a long time. I tend to think hollywood is becoming more like the gaming industry each day. They don't want to take risks.

[Bloodywolf]

Well latest years you keep noticing that a good movie aint a good movie without a sex or naked scene. *looks to underworld*

[ORI]

Underworld was ok, Underworld Evolution was crappy to say the least.

I think Javo, the movie industry cant afford to take risks nowdays cause they dont earn as much.(many people prefer to download movies than to see them in the cinema).

Its hard to have a good movie without nude or sex and still keep everyone interested. but its not only in late year, Basic Instinct came out a long time ago =P.

[Bloodywolf]

I ment the frequenty.

And if its a big risk with low income, where the hell does uwe boll get all his funds?

[DarkLobo]

I dont share Javo´s thoughts about the industry not wanting to "Risk", the thing is... how about make a GOOD movie with Real Resident Evil actual Characters and Storyline, that would surely bring Hell Lots of Gamers that love Resident Evil into watching the movie, and could give the "RESPECTED" movie critics a chance to see the movie how it was supposed to be, dony you think that could be a good sure shot? my guess with Movie Industry is that they are a bunch of IDIOTS who know not a thing about the story and characters of the "Movie" (or Game, Comic, Book, Etc) and they just blow up their mind with crappy never seen characters and wasted storyline.

I really think they are just for the money, caring not about the actual story and the characters involved... the Good thing is that Piracy comes into play and mess with their Dollars (Owned MOFO´S). I really support piracy... untill they lower the price of Games, Movies, Music ill be willing to buy their non-legitimate product for only 5% of the Legit product... i know piracy makes companies loose money (which in my opinion its great) and if piracy and customers keep doing ilegall stuff, legit products will still be on high prices... but someone has to do something about it, and if you want to destroy piracy LOWER THE DAMN PRICES! or you expecting piracy to just stop mass production of ilegal material? yeah... keep on Dreaming.

Now with all these companies sueing people all over the damn world, now thats a great move... making people into hate the industry, THATS QUITE SMART EHH, like if an old lady is guilty for downloading music for CRIMINAL CHARGES... are you sick bastards out of your mind?(Industry) are you so damn poor that you need to sue civilians for Sharing what few of them legally own? now im not allowed to make backups of my Software, Games, Music, Movies that i legally own? (even with the high prices these btches charge?)

Poor Cheap bastards (Industry) who thinks crappy countries like Mexico, Latin America, Middle East, Africa and few Asian Countries can afford to pay a STUPID product worth 3 days of weekly work? ohh you btches want to charge american prices in third world countries? huh? well i say this.

PIRACY RULES.


http://www.ngohq.com/home.php?page=articles&go=read&arc_id=125


Couple weeks ago, right in Mexico City police confiscated piracy worth couple million dollars... the place was called Tepito (a well known fortress of piracy, shopping and pawnshops) even with all this material destroy, statal goverment stated that it was not a hard hit for piracy (OWNED).

[ORI]

Some of them get funded by all sorts of shady mafia establishments. Some promote other part of the entertinmant industry (comics,books, PC)

As for Uwe Boll, specificly, if you look at his history hes recent movies are based on video game games(BloodRayne,Alone in the Dark,House of the dead), so obviously they promote these titles.
Of course Movies like hes recent BloodRayne(based on a video game title by the same name) have to be reinforced by nudity and some sexuality in the movie to appeal to the non fan based crowd .
 and not surprising 3 of hes new "In production" movies are based on PC titles as well so now hes also going to promote Far Cry, Dungeon Siege and another Alone in the Dark.  it seem he really found a niche as the Video game movie director and I think he gets all the money from the companys who hold the rights to these titles.

So you see, his movies are not exactly High Risk Low Income because he makes a movie knowing pretty much how many and who will go see it(assuming based on the fan base these titles have).

I didnt see any people like George Lucas who just decided people are going to like seeing a bunch of heroes saving the galaxy from a evil empire , he didnt have any assurance that the first  Starwars is going to be that big, same goes for the first Indiana jones (Im just brining example for a costy High risk production here). Now how many truely original titles (without a commercial book/game/comics base) without  many current celeb stars did you see around lately? I think the answer is not many at all because its very high risk nowdays. (im not talking about animated movies)
Most of such true original productions are happening on TV nowdays cause its a smaller scale production/

[ORI]

I dont share Javo´s thoughts about the industry not wanting to "Risk", the thing is... how about make a GOOD movie with Real Resident Evil actual Characters and Storyline, that would surely bring Hell Lots of Gamers that love Resident Evil into watching the movie, and could give the "RESPECTED" movie critics a chance to see the movie how it was supposed to be, dony you think that could be a good sure shot? my guess with Movie Industry is that they are a bunch of IDIOTS who know not a thing about the story and characters of the "Movie" (or Game, Comic, Book, Etc) and they just blow up their mind with crappy never seen characters and wasted storyline.

I really think they are just for the money, caring not about the actual story and the characters involved... the Good thing is that Piracy comes into play and mess with their Dollars (Owned MOFO´S). I really support piracy... untill they lower the price of Games, Movies, Music ill be willing to buy their non-legitimate product for only 5% of the Legit product... i know piracy makes companies loose money (which in my opinion its great) and if piracy and customers keep doing ilegall stuff, legit products will still be on high prices... but someone has to do something about it, and if you want to destroy piracy LOWER THE DAMN PRICES! or you expecting piracy to just stop mass production of ilegal material? yeah... keep on Dreaming.

Now with all these companies sueing people all over the damn world, now thats a great move... making people into hate the industry, THATS QUITE SMART EHH, like if an old lady is guilty for downloading music for CRIMINAL CHARGES... are you sick bastards out of your mind?(Industry) are you so damn poor that you need to sue civilians for Sharing what few of them legally own? now im not allowed to make backups of my Software, Games, Music, Movies that i legally own? (even with the high prices these btches charge?)

Poor Cheap bastards (Industry) who thinks crappy countries like Mexico, Latin America, Middle East, Africa and few Asian Countries can afford to pay a STUPID product worth 3 days of weekly work? ohh you btches want to charge american prices in third world countries? huh? well i say this.

PIRACY RULES.


http://www.ngohq.com/home.php?page=articles&go=read&arc_id=125


Couple weeks ago, right in Mexico City police confiscated piracy worth couple million dollars... the place was called Tepito (a well known fortress of piracy, shopping and pawnshops) even with all this material destroy, statal goverment stated that it was not a hard hit for piracy (OWNED).

Read my post above for what I believe is the reason they can barely make a good production nowdays. finance has alot to do with it and so does the ability to attract as many people to see it in the cinema.

I think piracy is not contribuiting to a solution to the problem, it robs the industry of the ability to actually make good productions that hold thier own without jumping prices.
As for 3rd world countrys, I dont think its the Industry being cheap, its the inflation and financial state in these countrys that cause the situation where a average person cant easily afford thier products(as in workers in these countrys are paid less than workers in the US ). The industry have to raise prices for people who do buy thier products to compensate for the people who use piracy instead, that way the industry doesnt go bankrupt next day after release (some did go bankrupt already).

I dont think you apprichiate how hard and expesive it is to actually produce these movies so you blame the industry ..

[DarkLobo]

As long as they charge those prices i will ALWAYS turn to Piracy.... and no i dont really apreciate much how "hard" and how expensive these movies are, though i respect video game industry (what i dont respect in video game industry are companies like Atari, Vivendi, EA and Activision).

Troika´s Co-founder said it once, "It´s all the publisher fault" (Activision).

I will support any non published video games, because prices are affordable or sometimes are plain free for all to play... there is a solution, and getting prices as high as clouds aint the answer... belive me, if most game costed arround 10-30 uds max, i would buy any legit game, but new released games can sometimes go as high as 70 usd, thats ridiculous.

You have 3 choices here:

Buy the game for 50-70 usd when it comes out
wait 3 years or more for the game to cost from 15-20 usd
Download or buy it pirated for 5 usd

Guess whats more to happend in countries like Russia, China and Latin America? to be honest, i dont know anyone here in my city that actually buys ALL legit games... of course, there are few people willing to pay 800 pesos (70+ usd) for just released games that need a legit copy of the video game to play MP Online, but how many mexicans have you meet in games like HL2 or WoW?

By the way, laws here in Mexico explicitly says that all non legit material confiscated by authorities can only be destroyed, so if you get caught selling illegal copies of Music, Movies or Games they can only take the pirated material... thats pretty much it, so most people give a shit when authorities comes by and gets all the non legit material, theres really no prision or fines.

Like i said, someone has to do something about it, and you think piracy will touch its heart for all multi billionare companies? you expect piracy to get all moral and stop doing it? or you expect poor people to just pay ridiculous price for software they can obtain for few dollars? or free in the internet?

I would see no problem if i where living in the US and got payed 20 bucks an hour, working for 8 hours a day weekly... heck i would buy all legit games i could afford... its kinda nasty waiting for new crack each new version of a video game (though i would never buy any kind of Music CD or Movie DVD).

But like i have stated few times, getting payed less than 2 bucks an hour in my actual work (and my job is kinda well payed compared to  others jobs, some get payed max of 4 usd a day)  dosent makes it easy, and whats worst i kinda have a family to support too.

So i keep saying #$&# the industries and their ridiculous extra orbitary pricing.

[Ezykeyal]

AARRRRRRRRRRR, land ahoy!

[ORI]

Over pricing will stop when these companies will stop shipping games and do it by digital destribuition only.

I dont think there is another solution there.
I wasnt saying you were to stop piracy or something, I was simply saying that putting all the blame on the industry for a situation that caused by mass piracy is not fair.

PC games are even more expesive than movies because they are a lifelong product and the retailer has to manufacture and speard alot more product.
Before piracy started they were half the price here, but like you mentioned its a product that customers usally consider more worthwhile to own llegaly than buy tickets to movies, because its long lasting.

Way I see it either they can produce movies in a inexpesive way or start doing smaller scale productions(blair witch projects) in order to reduce the prices to a more reasonable sum.

For gaming industry they send things more to console nowdays(harder to crack) than they do to PC so I assume they are still doing good despite priacy and their high price.

However if you limit everything to Self publishiing (you dont respect the major pulishers) you are stuck with a whole nother school of expeses so you either do a lesser quality game, or you ask for someone to take a huge risk on your project.  Kinda hard to field a team of 60 devs and artists for 2 years when you also have to take care of publishing as well.

[DarkLobo]

Everything is cool, i just have so much fun ranting about random conversation haha.

[Xaltar]

Cost is a non entity. With tech as it is today special effects have never been easier or cheaper. What sux is not so much content but the actors attitudes, they are in it purely for the money these days. Look at movies like faceoff and matchstick men, both suffered from a poor script and simply passible special effects but both movies rocked (IMO ). Why? Because the actors made the characters come alive. Travolta and Cage OWNED in Faceoff and Cage was amazing in matchstick men.

Look at todays hot rising stars...

Kiera Knightly: I'd do her but she sure as hell can't act
Orlando bloom: Can he actually make more than 3 facial expressions or play more than one type of part?

to name just a few.

The difference is that the oldschool actors love what they do and it shows, the new guys are in it for the $$ atm, give it time and they will make thier fortunes and either quit the industry or start acting for the love of it. I recon in the next 4 - 5 years things will pick up again.

[Javokis]

Everything is cool, i just have so much fun ranting about random conversation haha.

A retreat?